Why ven looks like roxas

Hmm, I want to give a new theory of Ven looking like Roxas. The two main theories seem to be Ven related to Sora and Ven being Roxas. Well, here's my theory: I think Ventus, Terra, and Aqua were superpowered people like gods. Something happened to them in the end of Birth By Sleep. Whatever this thing was, it made them lose all of their powers except for Terra.

I'm thinking that whatever turned Master Xenahort evil made Terra evil I'm guessing Master Xenahort gave up everything he had, heart, body, and soul, to become one with the darkness. And then Aqua and Ventus worked together to beat him. However, Terra wasn't beaten. He just lost his memories and somehow ended up in Radiant Garden.

But then Ventus and Aqua were losing their lives. Then they made a wish to be together forever because they loved each other. And good guys don't do that. Actually, I don't think the Keyblades can reincarnate people. But since the people who wield the Keyblades back then were really powerful, the Keyblades must be really powerful too.

Oh, yeah, "Why does Ventus look like Roxas, not like Sora? The reason why Sora doesn't look like Ventus and Kairi doesn't look like Aqua is because when you're reincarnated, you get a new body with some small differences, kinda like a nobody. I'm betting someone's already tried the reincarnation theory but I don't care. As far as I know, it's something new. She looks like Kairi but has Riku's hair!!! That can't just be a coincidence, right? Or another theory: After beating Terra, Ventus and Aqua realized that they had too much power and would eventually become evil like Master Xenahort and Terra.

So, they had to become human. The Chasers weren't human but incomplete beings like nobodies. But they are not nobodies. They're better than nobodies. They gave up their hearts to fight the darkness and gain immense power. Unlike nobodies, they willing sacrificed their hearts to save people, which gave them much more power then mere nobodies. And they gave up their hearts to the light, not to the darkness. So, Ventus gained a heart to become Sora.

Aqua, however, split herself in two Riku and Kairi because she feared the power she had much more than Ventus. The hearts they gained limited their powers and changed them from god-like beings to humans.

This theory, I like more. Yeah, this theory, I believe, is very plausible. Until I actually get the game and find out I'm completely wrong. Oh, well. Once more, Ven and Sora are seen in the exact same location. In the trailer, he and Terra are viewing a young Riku and Sora from afar, so chances of him bein' a reincarnation of Sora is really off as with the super-powered god thing.

Okay, I'm probably wrong about Ven being Sora. I'll just change my theory a little. Instead of becoming Sora, Ven gives Sora his power to protect him from Xenahort. That sounds quite more sensible, actually. My theory would be found in the Ven discussion. I'll go get it,maybe copy and paste And then again, why the uncanny resemblance to Roxas?

To be honest, I don't know for sure, but I guess body and soul go together, don't they? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. Why can't a Unbirth and the human counterpart exist at the same time? He probably said that "Erase me" line because he was suicidal. So, is Ven the soul or body? Or the game creaters coulda did this to screw with our heads and watch us run around with theories till we run out, any questions?

Why would the game creators want to screw with the fan's heads? At the point where he wakes up, it looks exactly the same in BbS when, in the cutscene, Ven wakes up? And as far as I know, neither Terra or Aqua are suicidal. I thought Roxas was mad, not sad, for being treated less than a person. He was mad because his "destiny" was to give up his life just so some other guy could live.

But why? You mean the digital versions of Hayner, Pence, and Olette? Do they count as humans since they're fake? Well, actually, now that I think about it, Roxas is "fake" but he acts like a real person. So, the digital versions of Hayner, Pence, and Olette can count as real too.

But anyway, what do you mean "Roxas had counterparts"? Roxas was just saying "Looks like my summer vacation is over" statement out loud, to himself.

That statement meant that he was going to die. But it doesn't necessarily mean that Roxas was suicidal. He gave up his life to help Sora, not to end his own pain that's what people who commit suicide want. I wonder why Roxas did that. No one forced Roxas to gave up his life. I guess he just wanted to be a good person. Or maybe, he wanted to feel whole and joining with Sora was the only way he could feel like he was complete. So, an Unbirth is a counterpart to a person, and that Unbirth has a extreme version of the person's personality?

Is that right? Why does Sora have 3 Unbirths? Well, even if that was true, it's unknown if Sora has an Unbirth or not. For all I know, Sora is Ven's Unbirth!!!!!! Sora is not an Unbirth. No offense but where the hell are you guys gettin' these crazy theories? How can Sora possibly be a part of that which is the opposite of life?

Hey, you never know. Anything can happen in Kingdom Hearts. Besides, nothing is really known about the Unbirth. So, it could be possible.

I know that anything could happen, but did any of you ever stop to think that 'erase me' just maybe another way of 'kill me'? Sorry, but these theories seem rather too farfetched to be believable. None of 'em seem to make any sense most of the time. Why not just say kill me? Even if he wanted to die, why would he want to die?

True, but how many things in a Kingdom Hearts game makes sense? Fans are just coming up with theories to pass the time until they actually get the Birth By Sleep game. Augment96 , 1 February UTC. Ven looks to be around Sora's age in KH2, so that would be impossible since Sora is still around, but younger, and sparring against Riku. While it's possible to take away memories in the world in KH, they eventually come flooding back again, so no one ever truly forgets completely.

Maybe Aqua, Ven and Terra had such a big influence on them including Kairi seeing as Aqua saves her an dputs a charm on her pendant that, well, maybe you can figure that out for yourselves, hey?

I need ye guys to stop and think real hard, and like I said, I'm not tryin' to offend anyone at all, but just think real hard and ask: Does ANY of these theories make any common sense to begin with or are we just throwin' random speculations at the top of our heads or just flatout asspulls? Joined May 29, Messages 31 Reaction score 0 Points 0. Later, I was told that that wasn't even Roxas, but a character named Ventus.

Skip forward to a few days ago, I begun my rerun through Dream Drop Distance, and as well as seeing Roxas and Ventus show up all over the place, we see some Organization members returning to human form. Aside from the lines under his eyes, Axel looks identical to Lea. So when Sora turned the Keyblade on himself to free Kairi's heart, why didn't his Nobody look like him? Possibly because of the fact that Ventus's heart was hiding within Sora's? Solo Silver Member.

Ventus' heart being in Sora when he stabbed himself is indeed a factor. That, combined with the brief amount of time Sora spent as a Heartless, was what allowed Roxas' appearance to be based on Ventus'. Gram Banned. Ventus also granted Roxas his ability to duel wield because when doing so Roxas is summoning and using both Sora's and Ventus' keyblades simultaneously. Antifa Lockhart Moderator. Also, the character you saw for a brief second in days was neither Roxas nor Ventus.

That was Xion, but Xion's appearance changes depending on who's looking at her and how well they're connected to Sora. Xigbar hadn't encountered Sora, but he knew Ven and that's why in that instance she appeared to him as Ven. When Sora stabbed himself with the Heart Unlocker keyblade, both his heart and Kairi's heart left his body but Ven's stayed inside of it because it was still sleeping. Ven's dormant heart altered Sora's body, and thus we have Roxas who looks like Ven.

Roxas has brown eyebrows like Sora, though few tend to notice it. It is theorized that Namine's blond hair was also influenced by Ven's heart in the brief moment that it took to create her. Her being first born in Castle Oblivion helps to give this idea credence, considering Ven's own body is in CO and it is possible Namine was "drawn" to the place as her existence brushed against Ven's heart. Namine as a whole is unique since she was made by Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body but only using a small fragment of said body to give her form, which leads to another idea that she wasn't a true Nobody at all but something else entirely.

Anagram said:. Tinny said:. RikuOathkeeper said:. I always thought it had something to do with Xion, as Roxas doesn't appear to have the capability to wield two Keyblades until Xion's death, when he goes after Kingdom Hearts.

FudgemintGuardian Moist with roistering. Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. Keeping up with the lore of Kingdom Hearts is like doing a puzzle without a reference; the pieces all fit together, but there will be more questions than answers until the entire puzzle is completed. One such example is when players noticed that Roxas looks more similar to Ventus than Sora.

The mystery is deepened as Roxas is Sora's Nobody, a being who lost their heart to the darkness. Nobody's typically retain the person's appearances whose heart succumbed to the darkness, but in Roxas' case, there was another factor that kept him from looking like Sora.

While Roxas is introduced before Ventus in Kingdom Hearts II and is the first of the two to appear in the canon, the story actually begins in the prequel title, Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. This title serves as an origin for Master Xehanort's evil plan to awaken Kingdom Hearts and follows his manipulation of the game's three heroes Terra, Ventus and Aqua.

Ventus' refusal to participate in his schemes and use his darkness to defeat enemies forced the villain's hand , and Xehanort extracted the darkness out of Ventus' heart. That residual darkness was then used to create Vanitas, a dark mirror and rival of Ventus, forcing the young hero to fall comatose following the ordeal.

With his heart fractured and slowly fading, what was left of Ventus' heart travels to Destiny Islands, where it connects with a young Sora, allowing it to heal.